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Craig Cockburn

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Courtesy titles or offensive discourtesy?

The latest version of this article is available at siliconglen.com/usability/courtesytitles.html

Do you need a courtesy title? Do you want one? If so, do you get the title you want? Do you think they should be confined to the dustbin of history? Did you know you could be breaking the law by making them mandatory on your website?

Some history

I've been online in the UK since 1983. In all that time, the standard form of address online was as it is in much of America - first name. Dear Craig was fine or Dear Craig Cockburn for a bit more formality. Dear Mr Cockburn was completely laughable and Mr Cockburn was used to convey humour, and again. However back in 1991, well before the web became popular, we had the first rumblings and again in 1993 of what would happen when the "traditional" world was to go online.

The Internet was an informal medium where surnames were only used to write address labels. You can happily look through the Google archives of usenet to see this standard in action and across international boundaries. The most usual use of a title on usenet was to offend someone in a flamewar.

The same was true when I went to work for an American company in the UK. 120,000 employees and everyone from the CEO Ken Olsen to new hires at the bottom of the corporation was called by their first name and perhaps their last name too. Dear Craig was fine there. On the front of an envelope "Craig Cockburn" (no silly "Esq" at the end or "Mr" at the front was used, or necessary).

Banned by the law

Hardly surprising from an American company though, the US Constitution (Article I, Section 9) expressly forbids the granting of titles according to this article in Washington Life, and they are optional under the Federal Equal Credit Opportunity Act, i.e. You cannot by law require someone to give a title if they do not want to. Titles of nobility are also banned in Canada and many other republics and their use there can cause major diplomatic rows involving heads of state. Also, many credit card application forms now allow the title to be dropped from how your name appears on the card, in response to public demand.

Misuse of titles

Esquire. How laughably datable that is now, yet only 30 years ago it was routinely added to every UK male's surname as if it was an essential part of their very being. What most people didn't realise though is that if you don't care about courtesy titles then you probably don't want a dated meaningless suffix on your name and if you do care about titles then you probably already know that only a tiny proportion of men were actually properly entitled to use it. Fortunately Esq. has rapidly disappeared from common usage, thanks perhaps to computers which require names to be in a standard form.

Defacto naming standards emerge

Suffixes rarely make an appearance on any web form now, perhaps to the annoyance of Bill Gates III. Nonetheless, the same standardisation which has seen suffixes dropped and "Christian" names renamed as First or Given names (thankfully), has also caused the title to become mandatory. Rather than being an optional courtesy title, you probably won't find an online insurance form which can be filled out without specifying that you are Mr, Miss, Mrs or Ms. At least women have something of a choice and are asked what title they want. Men just get one regardless. It seems the customer is always right except when it comes to using their name as it appears on their birth or marriage certificate. What makes you think that as a website designer you have the right to dictate to people how they should use their names? Furthermore we live in an increasingly diverse society where people with different cultural backgrounds or names from different languages all living together don't necessarily all conform to the same styles of address.

The good and the bad

Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk have been held up as the models for good e-commerce sites since they began. Yet, more than 7 years later, few sites have learned from their example in flexibility and offering what customers want rather than what companies think customers must have. Neither site requires a courtesy title when registering on the site, placing an order or making an enquiry. Why then is it such a problem for everyone else? Other user friendly sites include VisitScotland, John Lewis and Swinton Insurance. Sites requiring a title whether you want one or not include Scottish Power, John Lewis(!) - no firstnames allowed here either, Homebase, Tesco, BT and Britannia Building Society. All rather bizarre really since over 1/3 of people in the UK do not use a title when it is made optional on a webform. You probably don't know that if they are mandatory on your site :-(

The web is an international medium. If your site caters for people from more than one country, particularly non English speaking countries, it is clearly reasonable to assume they might have a different naming style or terms. It is completely inappropriate to force the entire planet to conform to dated UK English language specific forms of address. A German would probably rather be "Herr" than "Mr". A Spaniard "Senor". A Frenchman "Monsieur". For Americans, they often don't bother. I won't go into Japanese and the seven levels of Keigo here, reader-san.

Excuses, excuses

So why is it that all men are "Mr" when it comes to most UK websites? I can suggest three reasons:

  1. Using a title you can attempt to deduce someone's sex.
  2. You can use a title to construct a salutation when writing to them (the two are NOT the same)
  3. You do not cause offence by being unduly informal

All three reasons are completely bogus. Many people have the title "Dr" or "Professor" which does not reveal sex. If you need to know someone's sex (e.g. for a car insurance quote) then why not ask it? For constructing salutations it's also wrong to assume everyone wants to be addressed as "Dear <Mr/Ms/Mrs/Ms> Surname". Amazon don't and remember they are still regarded by most as the model to follow. The formula above wouldn't do much good for Sir Richard Branson. He is of course Sir Richard, not Mr Branson. Nor would it work for the television personality Professor Lord Winston who has two titles. How many forms cater for that? What about all those ranks in the army, navy or air force? If someone is a commander do you think they are happy to be called "Mr"? Do you want to offend all the Lords, Sirs, members of the armed forces, Dr's and Professors in your attempt to not cause offence? The final reason of not wanting to cause offence is clearly bogus as well. By having a limited subset of titles, you offend everyone whose title is not on the list, who speaks a different language, who has more than one or whose salutation does not conform to the standard formula. The correct salutation for someone whose title is "Bishop" is of course "Your Grace" and not "Dear Bishop ...". The latter just makes you look a bit silly. Perhaps the real reason is maybe just lazy programmers copying every other site they see rather than thinking about the site from the customer's perspective. More further reading on this for the purists from Debretts.

Flexibilty and customer satisfaction

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not insisting that everyone must drop titles forthwith. After all that would make me no better than the sites which insist everyone must have a title. No, all I'm saying is that the field should be optional and free text. So if your title is "Brigadeer" ,"Prof." "HRH", "President", "Lord" or "Inspector&quot, you can type it in a box if you want to. If you don't, then no-one is forcing you. Furthermore, if you have a preference for a salutation such as "Dear Mr Smith", "Dear Craig", "Hi Sir Richard", "Bonjour Maurice", "Hola Manuel" or "Hey Dude" then you type that into a box too. Difficult isn't it? NOT. After all, that's how Amazon works - see above note about Amazon being the leading example which others say is great but still choose to ignore anyway.

Oh and DON'T whatever you do still require titles to be mandatory but put in an option "Other" in the title list box. "Other" means "I don't use a title or my title is not on the list", not "Other is the letters in front of my name". I have received an embarrassing number of letters addressed to "Other C Cockburn" from web sites who won't be getting much repeat business from me. Do these people actually test what they write?

So, if you really want to be courteous to your customers from around the world, ask them how they want to be addressed. Don't assume one tiny subset of English language forms of address caters for everyone on the planet. Do I have to mention Amazon's example again here?

That old webform you had which had the drop list of title, firstname and lastname and used it to construct a salutation. Dear Webmaster. Throw it away! At Once! Yes that was so much better than writing Dear Mr Webmaster or Dear Ms Webmistress wasn't it?

How to ask someone's name then

How to design a form to ask someone's name. Webdesign 101 (for beginners).

Name: [_____________] (one field).
This handles:
Craig Cockburn
Dick van Dyke (American)
William Gates III (American)
Iain Mac a'Gobhainn (Scots Gaelic)
Chris van der Kuyl, Leading Scottish Entrepreneur
Petr ten Hove (Dutch)
(note: The surname in some of the above examples does not begin with a capital and it comprises more than one word).

Next, ask the customer how they would like to be addressed:

How would you like to be addressed? e.g. Dear Craig, Dear Mr Smith, Hi Bill, Greetings Sir Richard. Salutation: [___________]

Hard, isn't it?

That pretty much caters for most websites. However, if you need to go a bit further you could ask the person's sex:

Are you [] male or [] female.
Much easier than working it out from "Dr", isn't it? Note there aren't that many cases where you genuinely need to know the person's sex, e.g. a Car insurance quote. If you would like the person's sex in order to file them appropriately in your marketing database for junk mail, then of course such information should only be given voluntarily.

Next, the bit about titles. How about this:

If you prefer to use a title in front of your name, e.g. for an address label, please enter it here: [_____]

So, in four easy questions you've catered for every language, every title, both sexes, every level of formality and developed a flexible international website which greets people in a way they choose. If you must store surnames in a separate field, e.g. for integration with legacy systems (isn't that your problem rather than the customer's?) then you can deduce if from the above and present it to the customer with a chance to correct it if necessary. The above can even handle the form of address favoured by the ultra traditional where a woman might be called "Mary Smith" but be addressed as "Mrs John Smith" (although hopefully we'll soon see the end of that sexist nonsense).

Other usability nuisances

Country selection boxes

Why every book on usability says that you should not have an excessive number of items in a drop list so that you do not have to scroll unduly, yet every website designer somehow feels its necessary to put every country in an absurdly huge drop list when asking where you live (and few ever include Scotland or Eire). With Afghanistan at the top and commonly used "United States" and "United Kingdom" several hundred entries later, do you really think this is the best way to do data entry and form validation?

Annoying site logins

OK. Your pet dog is called Fido and you fancy it as a username for logging into a website. Maybe your surname is Smith or Jones or MacDonald and you fancy that instead? What about the name of the town you live in? Maybe your favourite username is your surname with your first initial? How much do you want to bet that with 50 million people on the internet that you'll get any of the above and be able to remember which one? No doubt you'll end up with Smith653 or maybe Fido94 or something memorable like JSmith123FidoNewYork. Ha! Bet noone's got that before. Bet you can't remember it though :-(

Worse, many sites restrict the username to a certain minimum length, a certain maximum length (CraigCockburn is too long for some) and force you to have a letter and a number and your name can't occur within the username and if you have a surname like mine you can't use it at all. Yes indeed, Cockburn is not allowed as a name in HotMail because of the first four characters in the surname, I have to use C0ckburn instead, as if that is going to make any difference to the pedants.

Look, lets get back to basics here. Usernames were great back in the 1970s when you connected up to a mainframe, there was no web or cookies and you used the machine to identify youself to that specific machine. These days, the equivalent use would be logging into your Internet Service Provider. However, once you're on the internet, you already have a unique ID, namely your email address. So what not use that? After all, I use my email address all the time, across multiple websites and it's unique. Why force me to have another "unique" login on a website which conforms to different rules, the memorable ones have all gone and it's something else I'm going to have to remember (or forget).

OK, so you have an email address as a login. Now what? Well email addresses sometimes change and if you've studied databases past Basic Database Design for Complete and Absolute Beginners you'll know it's probably not a good idea to make something that could change into your primary key. Primary keys are something which databases need to find rows in a table efficiently, there's no need to burden the users of your website with that though, they just want to log in easily. So allow users to change their email addresses if they use it to access your site.

Logins to websites can be as simple as Yahoo, Hotmail and Amazon or as complex as many banks seem to think is necessary. Strange that the bank logins are many orders of magnitude more complex than accessing the same information to the same bank over the phone. Bit like having 100 locks on your front door but only 2 on the back door - your back door is the weakest link, OOPS. Anyway, back to those logins you were reading about. Accesing a site is only about two things - one is you claiming to be someone and the other is verifying that you are who you claim you are. It's important to realise this - the first claim is the one which will set off any lockouts if the second claim repeatedly fails. So if your bank uses usernames, and someone else tries to use yours unintentionally then you'll get locked out of your account because of their attempts. Whereas if the bank used email addresses as the first stage in conjunction with an internal username then the combination of email and username is guaranteed to be unique, you can get a username you want and it's much less likely someone will accidentally try to login as you.

So maybe the next time you have a login sequence, make it start with an email address (which can be changed), add a password and then think about additional security as appropriate. That way we're all much less likely to forget the myriad of usernames we have across different websites. And give people clues: e.g. This field has to contain a letter and a number, or Your password is at least 5 characters etc. That way the user's memory is jogged and they don't get frustrated at not being able to log in.

Craig Cockburn has been using email since 1983, usenet since the late 1980's and in 1992 was listed in E-Mail Addresses of the Rich & Famous. In 1992 he wrote the UK's first guide to getting on the Internet and in 1994 he wrote the first online guide to Scotland. In his spare time he runs the Silicon Glen site.

Craig is a software development manager and company director.

Bank Logins

Submitted by MartinB on November 17, 2002 - 04:02.

While some bank logins are more complex than the equivalent over the phone, not all are. The Royal Bank of Scotland Digital Banking service replicates the telephone authentication exactly, while Egg have a login which is simple enough for me not to have to write anything down.

The reason of course for having all this is not only to be secure, but to convince customers that you are secure. The biggest barrier to online financial transactions is customer fears over security. Plus of course, the native mindset of banking is to avoid risk, so banking security people will err on the side of more (and more complex) security criteria.

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Titles in extremis

Submitted by MartinB on November 17, 2002 - 04:17.

If you want an example of a comprehensive title list, see the British Airways Executive Club signup. Here's their list of titles:

  • Mr
  • Mrs
  • Ms
  • Miss
  • Dr
  • Herr
  • Monsieur
  • Hr
  • Frau
  • -
  • A V M
  • Admiraal
  • Admiral
  • Air Cdre
  • Air Commodore
  • Air Marshal
  • Air Vice Marshal
  • Alderman
  • Alhaji
  • Ambassador
  • Baron
  • Barones
  • Brig
  • Brig Gen
  • Brig General
  • Brigadier
  • Brigadier General
  • Brother
  • Canon
  • Capt
  • Captain
  • Cardinal
  • Cdr
  • Chief
  • Cik
  • Cmdr
  • Col
  • Col Dr
  • Colonel
  • Commandant
  • Commander
  • Commissioner
  • Commodore
  • Comte
  • Comtessa
  • Congressman
  • Conseiller
  • Consul
  • Conte
  • Contessa
  • Corporal
  • Councillor
  • Count
  • Countess
  • Crown Prince
  • Crown Princess
  • Dame
  • Datin
  • Dato
  • Datuk
  • Datuk Seri
  • Deacon
  • Deaconess
  • Dean
  • Dhr
  • Dipl Ing
  • Doctor
  • Dott
  • Dott sa
  • Dr
  • Dr Ing
  • Dra
  • Drs
  • Embajador
  • Embajadora
  • En
  • Encik
  • Eng
  • Eur Ing
  • Exma Sra
  • Exmo Sr
  • F O
  • Father
  • First Lieutient
  • First Officer
  • Flt Lieut
  • Flying Officer
  • Fr
  • Frau
  • Fraulein
  • Fru
  • Gen
  • Generaal
  • General
  • Governor
  • Graaf
  • Gravin
  • Group Captain
  • Grp Capt
  • H E Dr
  • H H
  • H M
  • H R H
  • Hajah
  • Haji
  • Hajim
  • Her Highness
  • Her Majesty
  • Herr
  • High Chief
  • His Highness
  • His Holiness
  • His Majesty
  • Hon
  • Hr
  • Hra
  • Ing
  • Ir
  • Jonkheer
  • Judge
  • Justice
  • Khun Ying
  • Kolonel
  • Lady
  • Lcda
  • Lic
  • Lieut
  • Lieut Cdr
  • Lieut Col
  • Lieut Gen
  • Lord
  • M
  • M L
  • M R
  • Madame
  • Mademoiselle
  • Maj Gen
  • Major
  • Master
  • Mevrouw
  • Miss
  • Mlle
  • Mme
  • Monsieur
  • Monsignor
  • Mr
  • Mrs
  • Ms
  • Mstr
  • Nti
  • Pastor
  • President
  • Prince
  • Princess
  • Princesse
  • Prinses
  • Prof
  • Prof Dr
  • Prof Sir
  • Professor
  • Puan
  • Puan Sri
  • Rabbi
  • Rear Admiral
  • Rev
  • Rev Canon
  • Rev Dr
  • Rev Mother
  • Reverend
  • Rva
  • Senator
  • Sergeant
  • Sheikh
  • Sheikha
  • Sig
  • Sig na
  • Sig ra
  • Sir
  • Sister
  • Sqn Ldr
  • Sr
  • Sr D
  • Sra
  • Srta
  • Sultan
  • Tan Sri
  • Tan Sri Dato
  • Tengku
  • Teuku
  • Than Puying
  • The Hon Dr
  • The Hon Justice
  • The Hon Miss
  • The Hon Mr
  • The Hon Mrs
  • The Hon Ms
  • The Hon Sir
  • The Very Rev
  • Toh Puan
  • Tun
  • Vice Admiral
  • Viscount
  • Viscountess
  • Wg Cdr

Note that you can choose not to have a title...

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Herr, Monsieur

Submitted by ppk on November 17, 2002 - 08:33.

Martin's list reminds me of another ridiculous British (and American?) usage: to give foreigners their title in their own language. When addressing a German in English, he isn't Mr. Bauer, he is Herr Bauer. Similarly a Frenchman isn't Mr. Paysan, he is Monsieur Paysan (without using the correct French abbreviation M. for Monsieur).

Extremely silly.

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update

Submitted by siliconglen on November 17, 2002 - 08:49.

I tried the BA form and unfortunately their email feedback form (left as an exercise in frustration for the reader to find it) does require a title :-( Have updated the original article to give BA the order of merit for absurdity. Re the Royal Bank - this isn't the case. At least with their Business Banking you have to get a code first so this ties you down to a particular machine whereas with the phone you can use it from anywhere on the planet. You also can't use Netscape. Furthermore, the transactions on the web side for busineses have much stronger security than the usual 128 bit whereas on the phone they are of course as open as a simple telephone conversation. With their personal banking, you also have to enter characters from your personal password before you can even get in, again with the telephone banking you don't. This makes the online one 1296 times more secure for just this reason alone. I quite like the egg login for ease in terms of not having to remember a username, but not marks at all for forcing me to use the mouse to operate the drop lists, wonder how disabled people use the site? Wonder why they think this is more secure?

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BA don't practice what they preach

Submitted by siliconglen on November 17, 2002 - 08:55.

I got my reply from BA
To: craig@siliconglen.com
British Airways has received your email - thank you. Your email will be answered as soon as possible.

One wonders why they bothered with all the effort of the courtesy titles when they don't even use the one I gave them.

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Lists and Codes

Submitted by g1smd on November 17, 2002 - 12:48.

Country list drop-down menus are a nightmare. A pre-selection of "continent" before the "country" selection would dramatically shorten the list presented to the user. However, be sure to provide some overlap between continents, such that Iceland and Greenland get listed in North America and Europe, and list Cyprus and Turkey both under Middle East and Europe, and so on. Store only the country information for a user, not the continent. Be aware of the codes in ISO 3166 for country identification, ISO 639 for languages, ISO 4217 for currency, and ISO 8601 for date and time. They are there to help you.

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RBS

Submitted by MartinB on November 17, 2002 - 12:53.

The business banking is still running on the old platform, which depends on an ActivEx control. The retail banking (which is the URL I cited) requires an activation code to prevent fraud from identity theft, but is then not limited to a single PC, nor does it require a specific platform (beyond 128-bit SSL). On the phone you need to give letters from your password to do anything involving setting up payments - the usability argument for the website was to allow you to perform everything from a single login.

Re egg - the theory was to prevent keyboard sniffing. I think you're right re disabled usage... wonder what the RNIB have to say on the matter.

Cheers
Martin
(Ex-RBS and currently working on a credit card security project)

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Two things

Submitted by webqs on November 18, 2002 - 04:14.

I've just changed my evolt name to "Air Vice Marshall James Ellis".... I think everyone should try this, it's great...I just have to grow a tweedy stache' and wear a monocle now...
It would be interesting to see a country list for the continent of Australia...
Also on the subject of drop down lists for countries, one of my peeves is the ignorance of (mostly sites from the USA) when selecting location as Country : State. Many forms have a drop down list for countries, but when a non US country is selected, the list of states provided includes all USA states and no selection for others...
So I find I have to choose Country- Australia : State - Alabama or whichever one I'd like to be in at that time...
Bah!
Cheers
James

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Quick comments

Submitted by paulnattress on November 18, 2002 - 06:24.

Why not get rid of the drop-down list for countries altogether? I find it very quick and easy to type "UK". Two keystrokes (sorry, three if you count the shift key) as opposed to selecting the drop-down and scrolling to the bottom. I must admit though, that I have seen a good amount of lists that place USA and UK at the top and then start from Afghanistan. One problem with this would be the fantastic ability of the general public to come up with completely new and bizarre variants of the spelling of countries/states/counties/anything at all.

James - hate to be pedantic but Australia is in Australasia which I think includes Indonesia? It certainly includes New Zealand and I know that Kiwi's hate being labelled Australian. 8-) But seriously, I think that Giz's suggestion of having two drop downs for something as simple as country is adding an unnecessary step to any form.

Craig - great article. I love your suggestions for allowing the user to type their own title/salutation. It may leave the door open for people to choose to be addressed as "The Fantastic Paul Nattress, World's Best Web Guy And All Round Diamond Geezer", but if that's my preference, then that's my preference...

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ROFL salutation usability

Submitted by cgware on November 18, 2002 - 06:54.

tx Craig for the Monday am refreshment.

a) will make sure not to mess with any Hon; when put in perspective - since democracy (and US law) forbid titling... it is interesting to see that the lust for *titles* is indeed a powerful motivation... still.

b) will make sure to decline any initiative by Britain royals to title me, lest I generate a diplomatic incident in CA; will make sure that our *lordship* scot title never-never-never is used either...

c) congrats on bringing to our attention how to properly drop the *salutation* field in forms... which overall I always have perceived to be a not too subtle way to find out which sex was the respondant so the marketing gurus could send some smelly offers instead of techy toys.

just this am - was trying to unsuscribe from the NYT and change my email address... huh in the past couple of years the form was *intelligently* updated to require, gender, location, title, occupation... before validating... whereas the first time around I did skip these; they were there but ignored them... I hate the fact that I end up feeding some impersonal statistics... what??? do they think we're truly going to *tell* what is it in fact we are... No wonder there is such a twarted vision of what the *needs* of clients are...

I've posted the article on netdiver.net what's new!

.c

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update

Submitted by siliconglen on November 20, 2002 - 06:08.

The latest version of the article, complete with updates, is available at http://www.siliconglen.com/culture/courtesytitles.html.

Thanks for the feedback so far and for posting it on netdiver.net

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Omission in country lists!

Submitted by shotgun on November 20, 2002 - 07:06.

When it comes to drop-down country lists, it is frustrating for us in Puerto Rico (abbreviated PR), to have to scroll all country names up to 'P' to find that Puerto Rico is NOT on the list, then we have no choice but select USA (Some americans don't like this!). Apart from the fact that PR is an US territory, puertorican people consider themselves a country. I know, this has many political, democratical, and even racial issues that have not been resolved for over 100 years. But do PR people have to stand up with this?

Many countries consider PR a country. ??? What to do? I know many people from PR who will not continue filling a form if PR is NOT on the drop-down contry list.

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agree with shotgun

Submitted by siliconglen on November 20, 2002 - 07:19.

It gets worse - Eire is an official name for Ireland and IS definitely a country. However, webmasters just use the ISO3166-1 list and this just shows the official name in English only.

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Eire

Submitted by MartinB on November 20, 2002 - 07:59.

If you read the ISO 3166 spec, you'll note that it's made up of codes and short country names in English. There is also a supported version in French, but as the FAQ puts it:

15: Are there language versions of ISO 3166-1 other than English and French?
A: Yes. But in order to get copies of these you will need to contact the national member organizations of ISO, enquire whether they have an adoption of ISO 3166-1 in their national language and buy it from them. Here is a listing of all national ISO member organizations.

If you contacted the National Standards Authority of Ireland and asked for a gaeilge version, I'm sure they'd have Eire on the list.

I'm also sure that most people will be aware of the reasons for limiting data vocabularies - data cleansing after the event is a long and expensive business, prone to much error and better avoided if at all possible.

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Ireland/Eire

Submitted by paulnattress on November 21, 2002 - 02:51.

There will be those who look for Eire and those who look for Ireland in the list. Should we include both? And is this the only country to have two commonly used names?

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Ireland/Eire

Submitted by MartinB on November 21, 2002 - 03:39.

I would imagine that it's common for any country with multiple official languages.

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NZ

Submitted by webqs on November 21, 2002 - 03:55.

eg Aotearoa / New Zealand

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Are courtesy titles used on e-commerce sites?

Submitted by JohnColby on November 25, 2002 - 04:10.

My manager in my prevous company has a loyalty card from Tesco (a UK supermarket chain). The prmary card was in his name rather than his wife's. He and his wife were expecting a baby. - He got a letter that started " Dear Mr Smith - We are delighted to learn that you are pregnant . . . ."

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New URL for base article

Submitted by siliconglen on November 25, 2002 - 04:27.

I've tidied up my site a bit and moved the original article to a new location at http://www.siliconglen.com/usability/courtesytitles.html and created a new section on usability at http://www.siliconglen.com/usability/

Craig

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Tesco gender error

Submitted by MartinB on November 25, 2002 - 04:44.

John

That's a simple data cleansing error, something anyone communicating directly with customers will get from time to time, and not really anything to do with Tesco having online ordering. It is possible to build your customer database such that you recognise the difference between household and individual data, but it's not quick, easy or cheap, especially if you're adding it onto an existing system.

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Tesco Gender error

Submitted by JohnColby on November 25, 2002 - 05:07.

Martin

I realse what it is. It's just picking up on a comment of Craig's "Using a title you can attempt to deduce someone's sex. " which plainly fails because the programmers have made an unwarrantable assumption.

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Bad Copy

Submitted by MartinB on November 26, 2002 - 04:40.

It's also caused by mis-communication between the development team and the DM team and their copy writer. Had the copy writer understood how the selection for recipients of the 'newly pregnant' mailing pack worked (and it's the DM team's responsibility to define that and communicate it to all parties), then he/she would have written the letter along the lines "We are delighted to learn that you are expecting..."

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Freeform title fields

Submitted by paulnattress on November 27, 2002 - 02:48.

We have a freeform title field on a customer enquiry form on our site. In 99% of enquiries, this is filled in correctly. However, as it appears at the top of the form, some people have used it as the title of their enquiry. Don't assume that having the title field next to first name field makes its meaning unambiguous.

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Country free input

Submitted by notabene on December 3, 2002 - 06:27.

I'd be quite interested to know if anyone here has put up a free country name input field rather than a drop-down?

Here we're talking theoretically, but I would be curious to know what percentage there is of bad country submission (typos? jokes? etc)

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re: country free input

Submitted by paulnattress on December 4, 2002 - 04:39.

That's an interesting one. How would the back-end system handle someone like me who could type the following:

UK
U.K.
United Kingdom
Great Britain
GB
G.B.
England

The front-end, user-facing side has to map to the back-end. I suspect it is this requirement which forces many designers/developers to put long drop-down lists on their forms in the first place.

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re: country free input

Submitted by notabene on December 4, 2002 - 08:24.

Paul,

That's why I was asking this question. It seems that everybody finds the drop-downs annoying but nobody can point us to a site where the country is "loosely" entered...

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Freeform input for addresses

Submitted by MartinB on December 5, 2002 - 05:24.

One of the major issues facing anyone tempted to make address input freeform is that if the data will be used for mailing or analytics purposes is that variability will kill much of the value.

For mailings, many postal systems (the UK one for example) give you large discounts if your outgoing mail is pre-sorted in a Post Office friendly way. It's going to be a hard job making the business case of Well it might make registration a bit easier for some users in the face of It'll cost us £100,000 per annum unless you can quantify the additional usability in financial terms.

Similarly for analytics, you'll need to build some way of collating all the likely variants of a country name either at data entry time or in the analysis run. Neither are going to be fun. Both are going to cost money in terms of development time, and you're back to making a business case for that budget.

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another consideration for freeform country fields

Submitted by paulnattress on December 16, 2002 - 10:49.

Look at this example:

Address
Town
County
Country
Postcode

County and Country look very similar and are easily mistaken for each other. Omit one of these fields and it becomes very easy to enter "Northumberland" into the Country field.

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Useful real-world stats for titles

Submitted by paulnattress on June 10, 2003 - 07:03.

I've just gained access to this info and thought it would be very useful to share.

I work on the website for one of the biggest utilities companies in the UK. We have a database with 7.9million entries, all of which include the title field. As this is a very good cross-section of the UK residential population (almost everyone has to have gas and/or electricity), we have very high confidence in these figures and these can be taken as indicative of the UK residential population as a whole.

We have found that 6 titles (Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss, Dr, Reverend) will cover 99.91% of all of these entries. (Dropping Reverend will give you 99.46% coverage, dropping Dr will give you 99.05% coverage.)

Also, 10 titles (Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss, Dr, Reverend, Professor, Major, Lady, Sir) will cover 99.97% of all entries.

I hope that these figures will prove useful - we find them useful and thought it would be worthwhile to share them.

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Thanks for the update

Submitted by siliconglen on June 10, 2003 - 07:52.

How many of the people in your list prefer not to use a title? My figures indicate about 30%. Incidentally, I'm with ScottishPower and personally amended my own record to remove the title because their webform required one but their website was such that it was easy to remove the requirement if you know HTML.

I was on the Churchill.com site the other day getting a car insurance quote and they have a rather absurd title list, including Princess - that is the title of the person, not the type of car being insured.

My original point was aimed at websites which have an audience beyond the UK and illustrating that assuming a UK convention is incorrect in an international context. However, since then many sites, including the BBC, are now using a more flexible form of address which does not require a title and instead uses the "Dear <title><firstname><lastname>" form of salutation. The title is only used if one has been supplied.

Craig

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mandatory I'm afraid

Submitted by paulnattress on June 10, 2003 - 12:39.

I believe that the title field is mandatory (but the database has been collected from many sources). Personally, I would like to either drop the field altogether or make it freeform. Unfortunately, our back-end systems require it and will only take exact matches to what is in the data-set. Only a drop-down will do. I'm sure many other companies face the same problem.

I would prefer to go with Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms, Dr as this covers 99.46%. If any customer wishes to be referred to by any other title, I'm sure we can accommodate them via other means. An email, telephone call or letter should allow us to update our records.

Hopefully this compromise will work...

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Why courtesy titles should be optional

Submitted by siliconglen on June 10, 2003 - 12:57.

Rather than reiterating my own views about why I think courtesy titles should be optional, I think this article by a woman makes the case much more clearly than I could by myself.

Craig

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Additional legal point, Data Protection:

Submitted by siliconglen on November 25, 2003 - 14:41.

If you do not specifically require to know the person's gender then you are likely breaking the law by forcing them to reveal it through the mandatory use of a courtesy title. Here is the third principle of the Data Protection Act

"Personal data shall be adequate, relevant and not excessive in relation to the purpose or purposes for which they are processed". The wide definition of processing should be borne in mind when considering the Third Principle. In complying with this Principle, data controllers should seek to identify the minimum amount of information that is required in order properly to fulfil their purpose and this will be a question of fact in each case. If it is necessary to hold additional information about certain individuals, such information should only be collected and recorded in those cases."

Storing my title means storing my gender. Storing my gender is excessive in relation to processing an order or credit card booking since both my credit card and the post office can operate without using titles. Clearly this is in excess of the "minimum required" and many companies have stated to me that they use courtesy titles to work out how many men and women use their site. I'm sure this statistical gathering is also incompatible with the above principle. Hopefully pointing this out will cause UK sites to fall into line with US sites and develop a more flexible interface, as the Federal Credit Equal Opportunity Act there already requires titles to be optional to prevent people from having to give gender revealing details.

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Does anybody know why titles

Submitted by 78259 on March 30, 2010 - 19:07.

Does anybody know why titles are sometimes not punctuated? So, instead of Mrs. and Mr., it's Mrs and Mr

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