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There's a new "free" Webmail player in town. This is good news for Hotmail and Yahoo users, disgruntled by new Terms of Service and fee-for-service agreements. As long as you own a Mac with OS9 or higher.

As discussed in this article about Yahoo! and this article about Hotmail, many free email providers are switching to fee-based premium services.

Mac Soap Opera As the Apple Turns is reporting that Apple is trying to "out-Hotmail, Hotmail" by setting up its own Web-based email system.

Designed only for iTools users -Apple's version of MSN- the Webmail application is in Beta testing, but open for public use. Anyone with an iTools account can access Apple's Webmail application by visiting http://webmail.mac.com/.

AtAT is reporting such features as checking third-party POP accounts, availability in English and Japanese and a 5 MB mail limit.

A founder of evolt.org, Dave McLean (damclean) is Principal and Creative Director of dw creative, located in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

Dave has more than 10 years of experience in visual and written communications. Developing two-bit sites for the Web since just after its inception, Dave is currently working full-time in the marketing department of a public community college.

As a founding member of evolt.org Dave once held the position of Minister of Propaganda. He now sits one the sidelines heckling the current administration. You hippies!

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This used to work...

Submitted by bobdavis on April 18, 2002 - 10:31.

http://IMAPple.net/src/login.php used to provide a similar service though their web site. Unfortunately, they seem to be having issues with their service (read the page to see what's happening).

This is pretty cool though. I love the Aqua interface on it. It works just like a normal MUA (actually, it works like a pretty good one!)

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got tired of "free"...

Submitted by phule on April 19, 2002 - 15:57.

I got sick and tired of "free" email accounts which lead to my domain purchase a couple years ago. But "free" still make for great spam-catchers. In the end, it's better to roll your own. With things like SquirrelMail, personalized-ed-free webmail is a snap.

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Novell also has a good 'un

Submitted by boblet on April 24, 2002 - 20:39.

You might also want to check out Novell's very nice myrealbox.com service

http://www.myrealbox.com/

apart from the naff address, it works for me - checks other accounts, can be accessed via pop clients, highly configurable, supports imap, no ads (yay!), hard-core virus/spam filtering, and they even reply to suport emails. It's no ads because they use it to show off their tech, and the only downside I've found is occasional downtime (basically beta-testing). I've yet to have this affect me in 6 months though.

note that because they are so hardcore about spam (check the 'spam blocked' stats on their page), spam black-listed domains are banned, and this now includes yahoogroups. I think you can get around this by having a mail forwarding address (eg bigfoot.com).

I'm not wanting to sound like their salesman here, but the service rocks. I'm interested to see Apple's webmail tho - I hear it integrates with the OS X mail.app nicely

Hope that helps!
peace - boblet

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Naff?

Submitted by damclean on April 25, 2002 - 08:35.

Obviously this has nothing to do with Webmail, but what does naff mean?

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naff = pants

Submitted by boblet on April 25, 2002 - 17:58.

For the non-British English speakers, naff means it's not so good, not cool etc (although not outright crap). Damn Brits and their wierd language eh!
(not that I am one, mind)

peace - boblet

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Only for Apple users - no better than MSN

Submitted by www_richardinfo_com on May 6, 2002 - 04:04.

"As long as you own a Mac with OS9 or higher."

That just goes to show other companies are no better than Microsoft - remember the stick MS got when the MSN's browser-detection blocked some competitor's browsers?
Apple simply block everyone else - period.

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In defense of Apple

Submitted by damclean on May 6, 2002 - 23:45.

Um, yeah, but how many services out there exist for Wintel-only versus Mac-only? Count them, I dare you. ;-) I think that there are a few ways around owning a Mac to get an iTools account, but I don't have them right on the tip of my tongue. I know there were ways to circumvent it before everyone got on board OS9. I know I did.

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Mac only?

Submitted by MartinB on May 7, 2002 - 04:51.

Actually, you can use the mail tools from Windows as well - have a look at this iTools help page. I believe the initial restriction was simply because Windows (prior to XP) didn't support the WebDav standard, which is what the iDisk is based on IIRC.

I don't think it's realistic to describe basing a service on existing, open standards as 'blocking'.

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iTools only just became webdav

Submitted by boblet on May 7, 2002 - 19:51.

It was Appleshare Filing Protocol across TCP/IP before that, and this change occured in Mac OS X 10.1. This info nugget is from the most-excellent MacOSHints.com website downloadable guidebook thingie (links in green on the right).

Access your iDisk the “old fashioned way.” With the release of OS X 10.1, Apple changed the default method of accessing your iDisk from Appletalk Filing Protocol (AFP) to WebDAV. There are some nice advantages to WebDAV, including unlimited connection time and access from Windows machines. However, in my experience, the downside is that my iDisk over WebDAV is really really slow (and it sends your password in clear text; AFP encrypts it). To support OS 9 users, however, Apple has kept the AFP connectivity available. Although the 15-minute idle timeout returns via AFP, I find it to be much quicker and more reliable than WebDAV. To use AFP, pick Go -> Connect to Server in the Finder. Enter afp://idisk.mac.com in the Address box and hit return. After a pause, you should get a dialog box for your username and password. Enter them and (optionally) store the settings on your keychain. Once you’ve connected the first time, make an alias to the iDisk and store it somewhere in your Users folder. Drag the alias to the toolbar to replace the standard iDisk icon and you’ll have one-click access via AFP to your iDisk.

There's also a mini-review of Apple's webmail. I dunno iTools still doesn't encrypt passwords or not - they may have fixed it by now

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